Allowing him to sense the passage, even within a loop, was key to wearing down his defenses(and rounding out Doctor Strange'sexploration of the fear of death). A new fan theory for Avengers: Endgame explains why exactly Doctor Strange gave the Time Stone willingly to Thanos despite knowing the consequences. Thanos and the Avengers' interests align in Avengers: Mech Strike #4by Jed Mackay and Carlos Magno. It will be interesting to see the role it likely plays. But, weren't they only able to break out of it because they were prepared, and knew it was coming, able to then use dark magic before Strange cast the spell? People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. But how would he have failed? Strange also doesn't like stark, possible he chose the first one stark dies lol. It's true that Doctor Strange looked into more than 14,000,605 different futures "to see all possibly outcomes of the coming conflict" but evidently there were still some futures he did not see. As a result, Doctor Strange hands over the Time Stone to the villain, allowing Thanos to take one step closer to wiping out half the universe. If he knew about this event, then he may have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. Well if other people can show my view of the film is flawed I'll agree but it seemed like hes only able to continuous time loop and return from the dead in the dark dimension because there is no time there only the power of time that he brought with him. The snap greatly damaged Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, and that may prove to be the necessary weakening for the survivors to undo his actions in Avengers: Endgame. can any of the stones help Thanos in gaining victory if Doctor Strange has already foreseen every possible moves he could make? Thanos can basically use the stones to make a bubble of independent reality around his body, meaning he can still act outside of time. Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one that happened in Endgame. He didn't show up to the first fight anyways, don't know if he would be there for this newer hypothetical fight. You can follow him on Twitter @samstoneshow and ask him about Nintendo, pop punk, and Star Trek. WebSo, if Doctor Strange had simply used the time stone to stop or slow time, there's no way Thanos would have time to react to that stimulus, formulate a response, and have his Around the time of Infinity War, Earth was very close to having a population large enough to produce enough power for the emergence. But with the halving of the population, the emergence was delayed for another five years. Fantastic, and Doctor Strange stopped Thanos from completing the Infinity Gauntlet and wiping out half of all life. I'm under the impression that four stones should be more powerful than just one. Self sacrifice is the essence of what makes a hero a hero in our culture. The other key difference between the two situations is knowledge of the Time Stone. Did he? Awesome, do me a favor and check another 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 just to be sure. Looking for all the world like a vengeful Hamlet, Kang holds aloft Thanos' skull, triumphant. WebCan Thanos beat Captain America? Like in the MCU, the ultimate resolution came down to a plan by Doctor Strange -- albeit one that had far worse consequences. 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This hints at the true cost of Doctor Strange subverting his plans from Infinity War and Endgame. You may have also seen/heard him on the Total Geekall podcast, unaffiliated YouTube channels, BBC Radio and CBC News. WebDr. With Doctor Strange peering into over 14 million possible futures, one fan theory suggests he foresaw a key event from Eternals: the emergence. While Strangemay not have intervenedbecause he foresaw Thanos eventually using the Gauntlet either way, the fan theory suggests that he actually wanted the Snap to occur. 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By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. And while he used all manner of magical spells on the Mad Titan, he seemingly never considered trying the same Dormammu time loop trick again. I think it's more like "TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA x1million. JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO ALREADY! RELATED: Doctor Strange 2 Already Proved the Most Powerful Avenger's Worst Loss Made Him Stronger. He used it to look at all possible futures and saw that the only way to beat Thanos required him to give Thanos Just two years later, Doctor Strange found himself fighting another near unstoppable force who threatened mass destruction: Thanos. to Dream Walk, giving him the chance to venture across the multiverse and puppet his variants. Nope, not happening. This also came before Baron Mordo was a part of the team, which was also most likely because he wasn't the Sorcerer Supreme of his universe yet, with Doctor Strange involved instead. Offers may be subject to change without notice. Seeing as the Book of Vishanti had the ability to grant the reader anything they need to accomplish their goals, the Illuminati probably didn't have to endure five years of hardship before going back in time to get old versions of the Stones the way the Avengers did. Or thanos would have been defeated but then our heroes would have died in the process to do it and thus earth is once again defenesless. Round 1: Doctor Strange with time stone (no prep) vs 4-stone Thanos, 20 feet apart, can both activate at the very moment the battle starts. There were TONS of ways to beat Thanos, BUT there was only one way to stop the stones which are ALL now in close proximity from being used by others. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I mean if everyone has a 50/50 to live or die one could argue that the one in 14 million is the exact set of circumstances that those individuals get you be exactly ever the needed to. In the comics, Drax is not only much stronger than his on-screen counterpart, he was essentially created to defeat Thanos. . . . . . . . . . . Just If it were any other opponent, Thanos would obliterate them in secondsbut this is Kang, and Kang is master of seconds, days, years and more. Physically, absolutely not. Power wise, so long as Thanos doesnt have the Infinity Gauntlet / any Infinity Stones, yes. Marvel/DC. Plus, while we have seen Thanos used the most basic form of time manipulation but simply turning the time back, he is not a socerer so there is no gurantee he could cast/undo the higher form of spells such as time-loop. Some point out that Thanos' goal was to prevent overpopulation in the universe, and it's also possible that he knew of the Celestials and how they emerge. None of that contradicts what the OP said though A question I always wondered is were all these possibilities as a result of them landing on Titan? Doctor Strange 2 seemed to indicate that there was another way to defeat the Mad Titan besides the way it worked out in the Infinity Saga - one that didn't require the world to go through such turmoil. There's actually a lot more reasons why Strange didn't put Thanos in a time loop than it at first seems. Accessing the Book of Vishanti in Earth-616's universe may have not been possible at the time ofAvengers: Infinity War, or was only an option due to the Illuminati's specific members being around in Earth-838's realm. A subreddit dedicated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe! Thanos had to win. Also, The Ancient One mentions that she can't see beyond her death so there may have also been some in that 14 million which they did succeed but Strange died before seeing that possibility and so counted it as a fail. RELATED: Avengers: Endgame Had A Better Thor Than Chris Hemsworth For One Deadly Reason. In the prime MCU, Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos after the Mad Titan stabbed Tony Stark, only leaving the villain one Infinity Stone short of completing the set as he left Strange, Stark, Spider-Man, and four of the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. Then we wouldn't have another potentially multi billion dollars movie. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. The mostobvious comes from those 14 million futures Doctor Strange saw; it's entirely possible thathe did attempt to use the Time Stone in one or more of them, only for it to not succeed in ultimately stopping Thanos. While there may have been other means, the cost to the heroes (and the world as a whole) would have been too great for the Avengers to take. Marvel made it clear then that whosoever wields the Stones will always have the advantage as Warlock was able to Existence of the TVA absolutely ruins this scene for me because it doesn't matter how many outcomes they lose, the TVA were always waiting in the wings to step in and prune the timeline should they fail. Round 2: Doctor Strange with time stone (with prep) vs 4-stone Thanos, 20 feet apart, time loop already activated. That attempt failed. So i doubt Strange can use that on such a hurry situation. Of course, that's not to saymessing with time won't play a part in that More:Time Travel In The MCU & Avengers: Endgame Explained. Would have made for a less compelling story though i guess. One could interpret the other stones as independent of time. With the supporting power from space stone, soul stone and power stone, the effects of time stone won't really help Strange to defeat Thanos. or does he go into a "void" so to speak only to re-emerge later when the hulk snaps everyone back? Brandon Zachary is a Senior Writer with Comic Book Resources and has written for CBR since 2018. If the Avengers haddefeated Thanos on Titan, then the events in Eternalsmight've played out very differently. And of course, Doctor Strange is not entirely helpless even without the time stone, and capable of putting up a decent fight with his verstility to protect the stone, so it might not be so easy for Thanos to "just take it" and end the loop himself even if he could perform the undo spell. 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