I dont know what the activation of the IC has in store for me but Im very happy that this transit is happening this year, at this time of the yearafter the activation of my Vertex by Mars in Aries, and at the time when Im ready to take the plunge in 2021. Im scared anyway. It is at the base point of the horoscope, this dark place, that the treasure is guarded by the dragon. 2020 was/is said to be the year of laying foundation and for me it turned out to be exactly so. Yeah agree. New moon in Scorpio on 7 November would orbit to become a full moon in Gemini on 22 November. No more details will be given to us until the 2nd half of this year. 2 businesses for Castor and 2 for Pollux. Another person may not have a home to go to. Saturn Opposite Midheaven Natal and Transit Saturn opposite Midheaven natal can cause feelings of loneliness and insecurity early in life. You can see how Jennifers stronger conjunction gave her a stronger sense of duty, and she did make the ultimate sacrifice in March 1993. Both malefics. A recipe for distaster as far as I'm concerned. It was the most challenging time of my life. I got relationships that brought out my hidden blocks and hindrances for me to see and acknowledge. Can you imagine? Ill be having it in few years. By the way,I have Pluto just finishing its 4th house transit. In 2012/3 I gave up everything to embarked on a journey with no destination. The Queen of the UK is important with this aspect as i recall, if my memory serves, she has an unaspected saturn conjunct her MC!! . But we all need to get our living situation straight at some point. My 10year journey of death and rebirth continues. But I am hopeful that may only apply to the Natal chart 4th. My nadir is the last degree of Aquarius. ), Im expecting all of that to explode soon. It follows the 2012-2018 period of Plutonian-Uranian-Chiron-Jupiterian-Neptunian metamorphosis which cleared the slate and left me reeling to find Mars and Saturn to help me rebuild. I dont know what my Saturn-IC transit has in store for me, what I know is that Im moving forward. It is not going to be easy at all. My life would PERHAPS been happier and more successful`, had I had this wisdom (gained) when I was younger. Well, Saturn has been transiting my 4th house for almost 4 years now and there are 3 months left to go. What happened when Saturn transited your nadir or 4th house? Now, I no longer hope to find love because I have it. Saturn Conjunct Natal Midheaven This transit means important life and career achievements and recognition. Pluto is soon squaring my Moon, and I fear it will be tough. It feels as if I went through hell with hope to get to something better on the other side, but ended up up in the same place where it all started. It means hard work and responsibility are your karmic destiny. What a year 2004/05 Im having NN return again in 2022. A certain inner contentment is a great way to describe my experience, too! Someone with Capricorn on the cusp of the 8th house may have some kind of despondency or sadness associated with their death this could indicate greater. It coincided with my first year at a new school. Ive heared saturn has entered capricorn in 2018 and will be there for the next three years. I have a very strong Saturn . Tr. When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. I was hoping I was going to move with my Prog Moon in the 4th but it was basically turning me into a hermit, isolating myself, depression and making myself go to therapy to deal with my past (which that's what the 4th is all about too). Booooo I am afraid I am sunk. Birthday Report Package Deluxe Transit Report 1 Year Get A Natal Chart ReportProgressed Chart Report Deluxe Asteroids Report Get A Solar Return Report Get A Lunar Return Report Child Natal Report 1 Year Transit Report Outer Planets, Find Your Soulmate Saturn Transit the 12th House Using Astrology To Get What You Want. 3 tough years ahead!! It can be quite hard, but through these hardships ideally you learn to work together and find joy despite the adversities. and my husband almost didnt get his green card for the government. This is the third time Saturn is transiting my 4th. I will be writing it up in the next month or 2. Is this Scorpio rising down? While I was my father's favorite red head youngest of seven , he worked 2 jobs and died when I was 19 So I did not have an understanding of male energy at all. There are typos in Elsas article on the 4th. Also very recently, a coming to light of the prospect of a government compulsory land aquisition of between 5ooo & 10 000 hectares of my & surrounding rural suburbs. Nice aspects Sextile moon in Taurus, 0 orb Trine Venus in Scorpio 1 orb Tricky aspects Square Mercury and Pluto in Libra, 0 orb Inconjunct Neptune in Sag, Jupiter in Aquarius, making a Yod The sextile with the Moon is the base point of another Yod with Neptune st the apex. The structure was built on a lie. And since Saturn is a slow moving planet, changes and effects these aspects bring lingers a long time. Ah, moon opposite saturn hard to look on the positive side. Right now I am working out how to draw on this, make what I say and write more authentically mine as I work with new graduates. I finally understood the family politic. Also, is Mars the ruler of Uranus Transit the IC because its in Aries? How do you find your mercury affecting you? Saturn rolled me over with the co vid restricting all wat l stated but now Pluto on the March but slowly, My partners money is an issue as hes selling ( mercury) shares in his company but with Saturn on sun mercury conjunct straddling I c and gem on 8 th cusp the Mars retro has made things unable to reach culmination. Sorry for delay reply helen, i didnt receive notification..i imagine your mercury 3rd house with gemini ac is a wonderful combo! Lou, sounds like you are having major awakenings and realizations about being among the species homo sapiens. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. You're finding out is that you're human. As Saturn starts climbing your chart, you start a figurative climb in life. Every 7 years or so, Saturn will transit conjunct, square, or opposite a natal planet. Thanks for sharing the quote: It is at the base point of the horoscope, this dark place, that the treasure is guarded by the dragon. At first, we generally encounter feelings of being thwarted or unsupported by the outside world in the particular areas of life that are ruled by the house. Thanx Loui, Pluto is conjoining my Nadir right now, and Saturn is conjoining my moon in the 3rd. Saturn Conjunct Neptune Natal Whether it's ideas, music, images, mystical insights, or idle imaginings of your mind, you strive to give form to the formless. Chiron was transiting my MC/10H (same area where pluto has been transiting since 2017 till now!) Whatever your rhythm when this hits, it's thrown out of whack and you like it. Respect is something you want and you should earn. Since my progressed Moon entered the sign of my natal IC in the beginning of September my attention has naturally turned towards exploring and understanding more about my roots. In fact, its 2business ideas one has 2 spin-offs to make the 4. Its not like things were perfect after that, but I had a certain inner contentment after Saturn left my 4th house, that I didnt have before or during for the most part. Natal Saturn on Nadir.I feel my family doesnt want me.Felt homeless all my life. My MC is on 29, and I have heard about the critical angleWould such transit a bit different for 29? i have natal Saturn in Aquarius conjunct IC in a tight 1 degree orb. Very formative year that set me on a better path. I wondered as a child why everyone hides their emotional selves. Saturn conjunct my IC was in my 3rd housethat was a pretty good time, in retrospect. They were known as The Silent Twins because they only communicated with each other. I have natal Jupiter conjunct my MC. Saturn's movement by transit through the houses acts to aid us to learn to depend on ourselves in different areas of life. I was already an experienced therapist and had just finished oral exams in Process Oriented Psychology in USA. Anyway, heres the kicker that led me on this investigative quest in the first place. Sharing is interesting and can help. I will look into that for you Helen. Its a lifetime process. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. House at the time had no roof, and no heating in new bedroom extension. I think of this now as there have been a number of murderers lately whose defense is that god told them to do it or that the person(s) they killed was spawned by satan. Diana. I was working on a construction contract on the coast. It has been suggested using the methods above that a malefic, ie Mars, Saturn (or a difficult outer planet like Neptune and Pluto) on the angles, augurs a difficult year ahead. In 2021 Im taking the first practical step towards rebuilding my life and this time the structure will be as solid as a rock. Thank you Elsa and keep up the good work. Celine Dion 006, Bernadette Peters 008, Emily Dickson 009, Cecilia Bartoli 012, Gene Wilder 014, Uri Geller 015, Jennifer Gibbons 038, Athol Rusden 039, Madeleine of Scotland 058, John Hurt 102, Elizabeth II 107, Paddy Ashdown 130, Lord Byron 131, Mary MacArthur 146, Oliver Stone 151, Karen Silkwood 154, June Gibbons 156, Rudy Giuliani 236, Jeane Dixon 239, John Frawley 249. I had it as I was rather young (20), alongside as I was having Pluto trining my Sun. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. I do have Neptune three degrees ahead of Saturn so perhaps Neptune has led the way. My IC is at 19Sag07. Probably will have to invest, and be somewhat insecure about my future. Yes, youre right, very hard to see anything positive sometimes. Idk what it means but all I've been feeling is torment. They both have many tight aspects to other planets in my chart. Pluto will reach my Moon in a few years. P.S. Now I have Saturn hitting the fourth in my solar chart along with Pluto and the home I need to sell needs lots of work. Pauline Shewaga says: May 4, 2011 at 1:32 am. Transit Saturn conjunct Ascendant. I live in a land lease community where there are a number of elderly residents among us. As Saturn will spend about 2 years in Aquar. This interpretation of Saturn in aspect to the IC embraces a loose brainstorm-style of writing to explore astrological themes. In the escape, I lost my wallet (my ID -identity)! This is not necessarily a negative thing for you but some expectations could be involved here. I searched. Sign up here! Im in the investigative stage right now about what to do about the osteoporosis. Best everyone! My daughter is currently having this transit. Viv. But past efforts will still be rewarded. If that eclipse at 0 of Cancer so close to the NN, square my natal NN, counted for something, the full moons in Capricorn and Aquarius have to count for something. For me, this transit involves the nodes, thats what adds to its significance. Im dealing with both Pluto and Saturn, a complete drama. Extra responsibilities, promotion, or demotion are possible that would need some sacrifice in your home or private life to compensate for. I hope the Pluto square Moon -transit brings equally great changes which I am hopefully better equipped to use to the full. The link/sextile to my North Node and the trine to South Node-Jupiter conjunction highlighted the significance of my IC. I felt the beginnings of the transit in spring of 2017 with some poignant dreams. Interesting point Denyse. I mean, Pluto transiting 4th can really prevent to sell a home?? does that mmean that there will be more sense of resposibility? Im hopeful, as Jupiter will be coming through in 2020. Now I am getting my Saturn square Pluto natal aspect in looking at Saturn transiting the IC opposing natal pluto on the midheaven. Pluto square my sun, Venus and mars has been a test of freedom for me. When Saturn conjuncts your Midheaven it's also forming an opposition to the IC which means the foundation you built around 14 years ago, when Saturn entered your 4th house, will come under . Hi BPip, I also thought of the queen when I read this!! Whatever the secret is, loving and believing in oneself! Saturn represents discipline, pessimism, restriction, and depression, and in transit, infuses your natal houses and planets with this energy. When Saturn transitted my nadir at 28 Pisces I fell out with my two best friends, never spoke to them again. This Saturn (and Jupiter) transit takes it to another level and points to this being a karmic transit. My Venus is in the third house at 29 cappy. I cant rebuild new Saturn structures on which my Asc will stand, only to repeat the same. On January 26th next year, transit Saturn would be conjuncting my natal Juno. Homesickness certainly fits. Anyways. I have 25 Sagittarius on IC. Second Saturn transit to IC was at age 40. Fate and your early environment play their part, especially the influence of your dominant parent. I am aqua. When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. And in the end the family fell apart. Im debating on how much money to spend on updating and decorating before I put it on the market. Perhaps my expectations as to whats going to happen, are mistaken. You suddenly see your persona and appearance as more of a fluid construct than a fixed concept of "you.". Ill be having that soon and Im terrified of it. I started going to another group. IC joined by Pallas Goddess of strategy and (Juno). Theyre also both having their Saturn return. I have saturn conj. I apologize ahead of time, Im going to sound super negative but its pretty honest (I am not normally a negative person by the way). In June 2012 VenusRx occulted the sun in Gemini 2degrees from my natal sun, in 2019 Mercury occulted the sun in Scorpio and my rising degree was in the Rx zone. The cycle is obvious. I have been following your insights for quite a while! I hope so. I sold my home over a year ago and am living in a cottage by the ocean in Western Australia. In my case it seems that the physical moves and the angst around moving homes/locations preceded the conjunction. Im observing the energies to see what that means. It also says a lot of things when the aspects are not there. These Pluto conjunctions will take place over a five or six year period. When saturn hit my natal saturn, uranus and moon, mars chiron I started to have huge fights with my mother. During the average human lifetime, it occurs two-three times. Pholus Conjunct the IC The IC is one's childhood home. I guess, Im no longer that bothered about transits.. Im having some problems now (renting is expensive where I live, cant afford to buy, my father is unhealthy. All was new, and although i managed to maintain the job I could not find a place I could pay for and call home and problems arised and followed me every time i moved. Thanks for replying. Checked out this site to review the comments of others on Saturn transiting the fourth, since tr. Isolation is the least Im concerned actually. It is common for a substantial life shift to be indicated when an outer planet travels through this house. As they say, what you dont know cannot kill you, these transits and eclipses didnt kill me because I didnt know the meaning, I was new in astrology and had no clue. It generally marks an emotional low. Designed to help you in the 1 minute it takes to read them. I think Jupiter is the teacher / mentor; Saturn is more a discipline. They started worrying me towards the end of 2019 when I knew too much to not be rattled, and Im not getting younger, Im 51 now but people say Im young which I dont like. Homesickness wasnt really an issue because my college was in the same part of town as my parents house and I would come back on the weekends. Saturn Conjunct Saturn This is the storied Saturn return, whether you're having it between the ages of 28.5-30, 58-60, or 88-90. Sun in 10th Moon in 4th. I dont know, I sincerely feel that Saturn has to do with karma. I had Saturn transit my nadir in 2014. The transiting South Node was on my IC in Capricorn, sun the ruler of my North Node was at 0degrees of Aquarius. In retrospect 2008 was a career peak. Hi, I have Sun at 16 Aries too, with the added joy of Saturn being conjunct at 15. . Pluto square Sun -transit is once in a lifetime experience. But right now. This conjunction is not easy to deal with. During their stay in the hospital, they began to believe that it was necessary for one of them to die, and after much discussion, Jennifer agreed to be the sacrifice. I am more than halfway through & ok but definitely transformed & it has become the pathway to my new vocation moving forward. Contact with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are felt over longer periods. The native shone in his early home. As Saturn approached my nadir time ran out on where I was and what I was doing. Natal conjunctions by two consecutive full moons one an eclipse cannot count for nothing. Last time28 or so years agoI closed escrow on my current house. As it is doing this it is squaring my sun, about to square my natal Saturn, moon and north node. Its not that I started to like it after all that turmoil its just that I got tired of all those struggles to change something as it feels like it is a never ending story. Does anyone know what to expect when both Saturn and Pluto simultaneously transit IC? Saturn transiting the nadir is an important transit. Same here, despite some fearful anticipations (Pluto square Moon -transit and Saturn transits), I do not feel too bothered any more. Jupiter is generally thought to rule higher education but maybe the professors are ruled by Saturn. On the other side that eclipse happened so close to my natal North Node at 27 of Cancer with the transiting North Node at 26. Uranus direct involvement with the eclipses is giving me no reprieve from these people but i can handle them thanks to Pluto trining my Uranus in Virgo and Saturn transiting my 4th while squaring Uranus and eclipses stationing direct in a trine to my Sun in Gemini. Plutos gonna be a stab in the back from people in power or even men. Interesting, I admire how well you remember your dreams! I recommend you examine Saturn sun people Look at celebrities with it Read about it I have Saturn square the sun with moon scorpio and Saturn conjunct the moon. 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